Dan has smaller hands (and less hair on his head and hes also shorter and, like, super old and stuff), though, and feels differently. Survival AR-7 Rifle, https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29644591, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/my-grandfathers-1943-union-switch-signal-m1911a1/, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/sig-sauer-p365-15000-rounds-later/, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-sig-sauer-p365-micro-compact-9mm-pistol/, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/breaking-ttag-tests-show-p320-striker-fired-pistols-are-not-drop-safe/, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sXldafIl5DQ, https://www.gunpartscorp.com/blog/a-quick-history-of-taurus-revolvers, https://techlazza.com/antivirus-apps-for-ios, https://techcrachi.com/sling-tv-free-trial/. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Here are some things to consider when making your decision. Dan has put a ton of rounds through this Hellcat and it has proven itself reliable and easy to carry. Yall really should swap out that photo with something else. The Hellcat thumb safety is very well-designed. Ill stick with my Sig. The community shows this every day and rejects hateful messaging HARD. Style has a place and this newer gun at least looks more duty grade with no obtrusive committee think or Grip Zone molded into it. Since the Sig is the real O.G., itll go first: So as you can see, the Sig is a little shorter overall and weighs a little less, while the Hellcat is a little shorter height-wise. The almost even went in for a third helping of stupid when 4Chan tried to convince them that drinking milk publicly was a new hate symbol. I like being able to use a full size magazine as a back up. Its one of the most open, libertarian-minded groups of people in the country and we welcome everyone who wants to exercise their 2A rights. The P938 has a polymer frame and a stainless steel slide, and it comes with Sigs excellent Night Sights. Its an extremely easy micro-compact to shoot well. Most will choose a larger framed pistol with RDS and much higher cap mags like, say a Canik TP9SFX. Get proficient on YOUR time. The Rugers provide the best purchase followed by Sig, followed by Smith, followed by Springfield. It is small and lightweight, making it easy to carry. A series of similar articles about different guns, chosen for whatever reason, would be useful. vs Sig Sauer P938 Nitron SAO Subcompact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger Check Price Dimensions Details Capacity Dimensions Customary Metric Want to sell a firearm? Again though, it was one clear area in which these four pistols differed so I chose to call it out. Its a Tibetan good luck symbol. Great guns. Next is the Ruger MAX-9, which is only very slightly less "flippy" than the P365, then there's a jump to the Springfield Hellcat, which is noticeably softer, and then another solid leap to the Smith & Wesson M&P9 Shield Plus, which shoots like a well-tuned compact, not a sub-compact or micro-compact. The Hellcat, on the other hand, is a bit larger and heavier. For those already having a P238, moving to a P938 for jumping up to 9mm while having a familiar feel and operation makes sense. I own my second P365, traded my original for one with a safety, with a 12 rd magazine which fits my hand perfectly. Capacity certainly is a plus. Which would you carry? The trigger pull is between 5.5 and 7.5 pounds. You wont beat the price. (He did both.) PS Many of us rated the 365 the bottom of the list. Skilled hands can certainly take them out further, but that is not their purpose. How are these for emergency reloads? Sig Sauer P938 Nitron vs Springfield Hellcat Pro size comparison All that said, Id be remiss not to mention that the SIG SAUER P365 was the first to accomplish this feat only if you dont count the KELTEC P11, which was released in 1995 and would absolutely belong in this group were it not discontinued in 2019. Sure, its the lightest of the four by a small amount and perhaps it balances slightly differently, but I think these differences are too small to really notice on the range. The floating kind for the inevitable boating accident in your future. The 9mm and .45 ACP models both come with night sights, while the .380 ACP and .22 LR models do not. There is a line where you have to say no, and this is within it. The widest part of the palm swell measures 1.06 inches in my calipers (and it does measure out at S&Ws stated 1.1 inches from the slide stop to the other side of the slide). And why would you buy a normal p365 if you plan on using the 15 rounders? This can make a big difference if youre carrying the gun all day. Well its technically its not even that, its just close enough that people not in the know could mistake it. For something to slip in my pocket I have a SCCY CPX-1 and CPX-2.. You must log in or register to reply here. I havent shot the Ruger. was my first sentence. When I went shopping for my next carry gun in May I narrowed it down to the new P365 .380 and the Shield Plus. Actually, Biff, I am. As blocky as the Hellcat is, the Shield Plus grip might stand out even more in the other direction. Weight: The Springfield 911 is also lighter than the Sig P938. The Hellcat micro is a bit smaller and has a lower wattage output. Dont give him another gun also. Side by side, SIGs is far superior trigger wise. With a bit more sight radius and the xray3 sights, I can acquire and get rounds on target at 10 yards without issue. The GLOCK is closer, but its over a half inch bigger than the norm here in length and height (in practice its an inch taller than the P365, or like 25% taller) and its at least 10% wider than the average. I LOVE the Shield though. I find myself carrying the P365 the most. I think the joints in his fingers and the shape of his palm and thumb joint and such align better with the edges of the grip. Ive got an XDS & an XDM and have had no problems with Springfield. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Good luck and keep us informed of your decision. Im not holding my breath for aftermarket P365 mags and dont need to SIG had supplied my Academy with plenty when I purchase the P365 a few weeks ago. Loved the grip and trigger and watched dozens of reviews leading me to believe it would be the most accurate firearm suitable for conceal (or just plinkin targets or holes in paper). Youre an equal. So you like how the P365 looks from behind? A friend, my main range buddy, owns the Hellcat, so Ive handled and fired it, and I have to agree, that trigger needs a serious upgrade. The reset travel is fairly short and the reset is nicely tactile and audible. This can be a big advantage if youre looking for a gun thats easy to carry and conceal. I find the P365 to be jumpy and I really have to concentrate to shoot accurately. Lets take a look at the two side-by-side and see what they have to offer. I have carried and practiced with my 365sas for over 18 months and I like the feel of the gun and how it seems to naturally point. I'm researching mag carriers right now and am undecided on whether to go IWB or pocket carry. I rather get a normal grip But which one is the best for you? Were I not Jewish Id be more afraid of criticism of the lead photo, stupid and misplaced as it would still be, but since Im actually in the group that would be aggrieved were this photo any sort of a problem its even easier for me to stand behind its entirely uncontroversial and inoffensive status. Choosing a CCP is a matter of feel (grips) and aesthetics (looks) as the technical aspects. Conclusion The longer slide makes little difference for CC and the WC grip module, with a 12 rd flush mag, is much superior, in my experience, to the standard P365 of P365x grip module. Springfield Hellcat Review: Homerun CCW? - Pew Pew Tactical Hellcat sights are quite nice for practical shooting at close range. A tracker in .44, TCP, and a G2. It just feels so perfect in the hand. That said, the Hellcat is a solid pistol too. Still a micro-compact, the Shield Plus represents a meaningful bump in backstrap length versus the P365 despite its identical 10+1 flush-fit capacity. As we get older we see these for what they are, a short lived fashion accessory. (The slide serrations are merely visual suggestions, but it wasnt hard to rack at all.). P365SAS: Standard-sized model with every corner and protrusion melted, including the sights. Though very similar in appearance to the SIGs and Springfields texture, the Rugers is smoothed out even more flatter high points and is therefore less aggressive, less grippy, and more comfortable. I will stick with the soft shooting Nano. I also have the P11 keltec and it should not be even mentioned with the others. Then youre family. He got lucky and got one about a month ago. One of the DBs reporters got trolled and instead of just taking the L and walking away they had to build a huge narrative and campaigned to get the ADL to declare it a hate symbol. On the base model, which is what Dan and I tested, the Shield Plus standard 3-dot sights are nothing to write home about. the left side of each one) and I wanted them in a format that didnt appear to rank them or whatever. Snappy little sucker. A Azmarlin39a Elite Gun control, mild shooting and handling trump a few extra rounds. It comes with two magazines, one with an 11-round capacity and one with a 13-round capacity. He likes the size and shape of the Hellcats grip frame. The backstrap, as sharply rounded as it is, isnt as comfortable as the backstrap of the P365 as it focuses its force in a more distinct vertical line across my palm, but I love how functional it is. Since this article came out the Shield Plus can be purchased optics ready and the OR version comes factory with night sights. I dont think you go wrong with any of these gats. For me? Weve got a dedicated section for the AR-15 here. I really think you need to update the article to include this latest model as it's a real winner. The p365 was a very close second to it in just about every regard. Sig Sauer P938, Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Fastback Scorpion Carry, Sig Sauer P227 Sig Sauer P226 TACOPS, Sig Sauer P229 Scorpion ELITE, Sig Sauer M11-A1, Sig Sauer P365, P365XL . My usual EDC is the Hellcat. Both pistols have their own unique features that make them appealing to different people. If I had 100 people test them, 99 would give this answer and the one who didnt would be you, having never even touched the Ruger. I never brought up the fact the Shield Plus is .2 shorter then the others. Type your email address and well send It also weighs slightly more than the P938, at 1.1 pounds. The Hellcat is an excellent choice for concealed carry. Most of the issues I have had have been from bad ammo rather than the actual gun. Trigger pull on the MAX-9 feels far lighter than its approximately five-and-a-half-pound break weight.