[24] Despite having an outstanding defense in 1992, their overall record of 214 (.125) remains the worst in franchise history. Krieg would have another weak game, throwing an interception and fumbling in his own end zone in a 34-7 loss to the Bengals. Bigger hands and Dave would have been so much better. WebDave Krieg was probably the 12th best QB in the NFL in his era behind Montana, Elway, Marino, Kelly, Moon, Esiason, Kosar, OBrien, Simms, Lomax, and Cunningham. In the spring of 1989, Krieg competed in NBC's prestigious Superstars competition, a series of physical challenges pitting athletes from various sports against one another. Dave Krieg Mitchell was terrible, completing just 48.4% of his passes. WebCheckout the latest stats for Dave Krieg. Krieg threw 18 touchdown passes in the regular season and four more in the two playoff wins before getting intercepted three times by the eventual Super Bowl champions. But Krieg produced 21 points in 11 minutes, nearly leading a comeback in a 27-21 loss. Patera, who happened to be the brother of Olympic weightlifter and pro wrestling legend Ken Patera, never coached again after the Seahawks fired him. Krieg has now been They somehow (read:Cortez Kennedy) won two games, one of which was against the 1-15 Patriots, so the Pats got local heroDrew Bledsoe #1 in the draftand the Seahawks got Rick Mirer at #2. However, Krieg's poor performance in the playoffs on the road contributed to the wild-card Chiefs' swift elimination by the San Diego Chargers.[25]. "David is the man. 5) The 1985 Seahawks were a strange,consistently inconsistent team. When that remedy failed to avert a four-game losing streak, Knox gave Krieg another chance. Parts of his story"seventh-string" quarterbacks, canisters of film, Plan B free agency, general managers stepping in as coaches, quarterback controversies that last multiple seasons and don't end with epic tradesbarely make sense anymore. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. He finished the season fourth in DVOA (behind Tommy Kramer, Marino, and Boomer Esiason) and eighth in DYAR. Krieg replaced the trio of Steve Beuerlein, Jay Schroeder, and Jim McMahon as Ryan sought the ultimate plucky, seasoned handoff machine. Come to find out Jack Patera didn't tell me all week because he thought I'd get too dang nervous. In 1986, Krieg played well initially, leading the Seahawks to a 53 record. (The two papers merged after the 1992 Pittsburgh newspaper strike.) Head coach Mike Holmgren said of Krieg, "I always wanted him to play for me, but he was way too expensive every year. Gannett may earn revenue from sports betting operators for audience referrals to betting services. I want to hammer home how ridiculous this sentiment is. Despite going undrafted in the 1980 NFL Draft, he has consistently demonstrated remarkable talent as a quarterback throughout his career. The Seahawks would go 4-3 down the stretch and beat John Elway's Broncos and Dan Marino's Dolphins in the playoffs before losing to the Raiders in the AFC Championship Game. Dave Krieg Get info about his position, age, height, weight, college, draft, and more on Pro-football-reference.com. Krieg has now been surpassed by both Brett Favre and Warren Moon for career fumbles. In 19 seasons, Krieg played in 213 games, completed 58.5 percent of his passes (3,105 of 5,311) for 38,147 passing yards, 261 touchdowns, 199 interceptions and an 81.5 rating. Despite Krieg's solid play, the visiting Lions lost narrowly to the Green Bay Packers in the first round of the playoffs. ", We have come to the 1987 players strike. I think if you hang around here enough you'll see there's plenty of us who remember Neil Graff, Bill Munson and the lefty from Cal Poly-Pomona. Damn. "He picks out secondary and tertiary receivers. I remember Kelly Stouffer as part of the terrible trio who quarterbacked the '92 Seahawks. [19], During the offseason, the Seahawks acquired Kelly Stouffer from the Phoenix Cardinals, and began to groom him as the franchise quarterback of the future.[20]. His average-sized hands never betrayed him. WebDave Krieg profile, statistics and more. I was about to jump in by Joey-Harringto. In reply to Pretty sure he was making fun of by paytonrules. Thanks for pointing that out. Krieg is the quarterback Fitzpatrick wishes he could be. Krieg was not in training camp that season, but intended on playing a 20th NFL season. However, Krieg still saw substantial action in 1993, relieving Montana in six games, and starting five games for the oft-injured Hall of Famer. As someone who started following the league at near the end of Kreig's prime, I didn't really have a good feel for his career arc. In reply to I remember Mirer having a by Joey-Harringto. He's pretty unflappable. WebIn a 1991 game between the New Orleans Saints and Seattle Seahawks, QB Dave Krieg got injured and suffered a broken thumb. "I'm left struggling with the question of just how good Krieg really was". Oh, and he has the smallest hands among all current NFL starting quarterbacks. "We went out for pre-game warm-ups and I didn't know if it would be Sam Adkins or myself. However, Krieg and Seahawks offense were overwhelmed by the aggressive defense of the L.A. The Seahawks had joined the NFL just four years earlier in 1976. See Photos. He saw the field only once, taking a few snaps with two incompletions in the final game in 1980,[6] the Seahawks' ninth straight loss in a disappointing 412 season in which they lost all eight home games. He always seems to have a big play ready. Seattle General Manager Tom Flores decided to retain Stouffer and McGwire, and to let Krieg become a free agent. Knox announced a quarterback change a few days later. So Knox built an offense out of deep strikes to Largent and Turner, touch passes to Largent, and lots of swing passes to fullback types. 1 quarterback," Knox insisted in early September, adding that "Zorn has a better grasp of what we're trying to do offensively.". Like Romo, Krieg rose from the bottom of the bench to have some fabulous seasons, as well as some not-so-fabulous ones. Neither Krieg nor the Chiefs must have noticed that anything much had changed. But I guess his tinier hands matter more, somewhere, apparently. Zorn played adequately to start the season, then slowly fell off a cliff. And Krieg is better than Zorn has ever been in the past.". Krieg led the team to a 7-5 record against real players, just good enough to reach the playoffs and lose an overtime heartbreaker to Warren Moon and the Oilers. He placed first in the basketball and rowing events, beating athletes including Gault, Walker, Randall Cunningham, Evander Holyfield, and Carl Lewis. I looked it up, in 1993 after 7-2 Miami lost Marino for the season and Scott Mitchell went down, they signed DeBerg, then 39, off-the-street and put him as their starter. Career Notes. In reply to I remember when 44 year old by vrao81. Krieg made a handful of spot starts, then was forced into the lineup when Montana was injured against the Bills in the AFC Championship Game. Yet hes an elite quarterback anyway? Then a strike erased two months. Krieg finished fifth in DVOA behind Boomer Esiason, Warren Moon, Marino, and Jim Everett. Sports betting and gambling are not legal in all locations. Dave Krieg. Hand size is more of a fun trivia fact than anything that says a quarterback will fail in the big leagues. In reply to The other players profiled by Joey-Harringto. The Hundredth Monkey on Twitter: "@andeparks I was there too! In his 19-year NFL career, Krieg played for the Seahawks (19801991), Kansas City Chiefs (19921993), Detroit Lions (1994), Arizona Cardinals (1995), Chicago Bears (1996), and Tennessee Oilers (19971998). In reply to Have for years merged Dave by MilkmanDanimal. As it turns out, hands under nine inches arent In the regular season finale, Krieg dissected the Raiders' secondary, throwing for 410 yards and four touchdowns, thereby securing the division title at 97 and relegating the Raiders to a wild card berth. Jones was, in fact, the player who injured Mitchell. Raiders in the American Football Conference Championship Game. Dave Krieg. Krieg came to rely on fullback John L. Williams after Largent retired that season. With Seattle he was 70-49, Krieg also had six seasons where he lead his team to the playoffs and posted a playoff record of 3-6. Call the National Council on Problem Gambling 24/7 at 1-800-GAMBLER (NJ, OH), 1-800-522-4700 (CO), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN). How much does Kenny Pickett's hand size actually matter? I have no idea what force convinced me to type Ripon not Milton, but MILTONis CORRECT! As someone who is arguably the greatest to ever take snaps from under center, Brady didnt have especially large hands. Broadcasters and columnists alike loved to tell the story of the seventh-stringer from tiny Milton College. After Mitchell's poor half season in '94., everyone was ready to jump off the bandwagon. They werent small either. Statistically, the 1994 season was the best of Krieg's career: Krieg completed 61.8% of his passes and threw 14 touchdowns versus only 3 interceptions, for a passer rating of 101.7. [31] Statistically, Krieg's performance was inconsistent: his passer rating ranged from subpar (4 games below 60) to mediocre (2 games in the 60s) to good (3 games in the 80s and 90s) to outstanding (3 games over 100). Stroud, Mike Tanier's Final Three-Round Mock Draft, Things to Do While Waiting for Aaron Rodgers. (Chiefs safety Deron Cherry intercepted four of the passes). Largent, who retired as the NFL's all-time leading receiver, represented his native Oklahoma in Congress for eight years. The Arizona Cardinals rewarded Krieg for his 1994 performance by signing him to be their starting quarterback in 1995. The Life And Long Career Of Dave Krieg (Story) At Milton, a now-defunct small private college in Milton, Wisconsin, Krieg began as the 7th-string quarterback for his school's NAIA team, the Wildcats. In the 1991 NFL Draft, the Seahawks used their first round pick on another quarterback of the future, Dan McGwire. WebPeople named Dave Krieg. ), finishing 8-8. My parents used to tape the games and send them to me so I could see my team play. And if he's down, he bounces right back. The absence of Warner, who tore an ACL in the 1984 season opener, had a lot to do with the change. Dave was lots of fun (along with some gnashing of teeth). And Favres hands are a semi-gigantic 1013 inches from thumb to pinkie. But he has been the frontman for one of the NFLs more successful teams of late, and he does bring consistency to the table. "Dave Krieg is making a big move at Jim Zorn. DeBerg went 40 of 58 for 539 yards the next two games to beat New England and Dallas, the eventual SB winner, in the Leon Lett game. -Kelly Stouffer is one of the greatest draft mysteries to me ever. Krieg took over in the second half. Seattle Mariners @ Oakland Athletics May 2-4. Knox had led the Rams and Bills to the playoffs in his last two stops. And he called plays using a shoulder mounted speaker system for a time as well. They alternated pairs of wins and then losses the entire season (2-0, 2-2, 4-2, 4-4, etc. "How bad can it get if there are only 50 guys on the team and you're the seventh-best quarterback?" 907830E5-9AEB-4FD2-9C5E-5AFCA574DF26.jpeg. WebThe idea is that small hands mean youre more likely to fumble when hit or lose your grip on the ball when passing in bad weather. WebKrieg was the holder of the NFL record for most career fumbles for many years, owing to both a lengthy career at quarterback and extremely small hands for the position. Ray Didinger called Krieg the "surprise of the year" in a syndicated awards column. After breaking his thumb in the season opener, Krieg missed six games in 1991. Gaddini sent the Seahawks "a couple of canisters of film," in Krieg's words, and Krieg boarded an airplane for the first time in his life to travel to Seattle for a tryout. 6) The Seahawks' five game winning streak at the end of the 1986 season impressed everyone at the time. Kemp relieved Krieg in the fourth quarter and nearly led the Seahawks on a scoring drive in the final 71 seconds. In the year's first game, Krieg set a team record by throwing his 108th touchdown;[11] in less than four years as a starter, Krieg had broken a record Zorn had compiled over more than seven starting seasons. I saw one of those Top 10 Busts or some such show where one player was saying that Mirer was done as soon as they figured out he wouldn't or couldn't throw to his right or his left, I can't remember which any more. He's way better than DeBerg!" Should DeBerg get his own "Legends of DVOA" entry? On rare occasions, Krieg would mop up in garbage time or take a knee at the end of a game. Kried to Largent was a thing for several years. "There isn't anything particularly outstanding I can tell you about Kelly Stouffer other than he has a good arm, he's tall, and he can move around pretty good," Knox said of the quarterback his team traded a first-round pick for. Warner's backups were burly all-purpose backs Dan Doornink and David Hughes, plus kick returner Eric Lane and, incongruously, a well-beyond-the-hill Franco Harris. Like Fitzpatrick, Krieg played for so long that his origin story became a broadcast trope, and he often played just well enough to get his next job rather than keep his current one. Kriegby then nearly 40 years oldcame off the bench to rally the Oilers to victory, going 7-of-13 for 129 yards. I may do it next offseason! Dave Krieg. Dave is proud to be a board But the career leader in quarterback fumbles is none Please check your email for a confirmation. Dave Krieg knows what its like to return from injury and lead the In the most memorable game of the season, on November 11, the Seahawks made their annual visit to Arrowhead Stadium, where they had not won since 1980. Coming from a small college, I didn't feel like I had any resources to fall back to for help outside of football. Krieg wouldn't have survived it all if he wasn't very, very good. You can get it at Amazon or read it for free as an FO+ subscriber! [28] Although Krieg had set Detroit Lions regular-season records for fewest passes intercepted (3) and highest passer rating (101.7), the team decided to stick with Mitchell and let Krieg become a free agent. Thanks for the links! In reply to We're talking about this in by Mike Tanier. Reply . Mahomes has played in the AFC Championship Game every year of his starting career and is the leagues arguable best player. Really liked him a lot except for those small hands. Have for years merged Dave Krieg and Steve DeBerg together into fusion of the ultimate 80s journeyman QB, Stave KrieBerg. This year that backwards discussion is centered around former Pittsburgh signal-caller, Kenny Pickett. How dare you besmirch the good name of the ultraback. In reply to Lol. Does anyone else remember the Cortez Kennedy commercial? OK, the surprise game-opening bomb was a pretty standard tactic for run-oriented playcallers. The Seahawks went 4-3 down the stretch, though Zorn had less to do with their success than a strong defense led by Kenny Easley and Jacob Green, and perhaps the fact that the players no longer despised their coach and vice-versa. It was our first year of season tickets. That's not the sort of thing a team does when it is completely satisfied with its starting quarterback. Krieg posted a career of 98-77. "People talk about the arm strength of quarterbacks," said Seahawks quarterback coach Ken Meyer in a Krieg profile during the 1984 playoffs. Yeah, it doesnt look any better in writing. 1988 SEAHAWKS: Had his worst game as a pro replacing injured Dave Krieg in loss to 49ers in Week 4. Web8 1/2 hand Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) March 3, 2022. "He had some big plays and rallied us. With something weird NFL in rti but not sure if have desire anymroe. (I'm sure it was interesting if/when Lyle Alzado sacked Krieg; it was one alumnus of a defunct college (Yankton College in Alzado's case) sacking another alumnus of a defunct college. WebKrieg was the holder of the NFL record for most career fumbles for many years, owing to both a lengthy career at quarterback and extremely small hands for the position. Free agency was in its infancy, and he was the first in a long line of backups to get mega deals off the back of a few fill-in starts. Curt Warner purchased an auto dealership in Vancouver. [42], Krieg is now a motivational speaker and real estate investor in Phoenix, Arizona. Krieg had four seasons with more than 3,000 yards passing and led the Seahawks to the playoffs four times. Dave Krieg, sometimes known as Mudbone, is a former NFL football player from the United States. They crushed the eventual AFC champion Broncos 41-16 in the final game of the regular season (when Denver still had something to play for). The Packers narrowly held off the Lions for a 38-30 win. Krieg could not, however, lead the Lions past the Packers in the playoffs. The Seahawks went 9-7 but missed the playoffs. Zorn and Krieg battled through the 1983 offseason, but Knox refused to acknowledge the controversy that the press was breathlessly reporting about. That decision helped doom the Seahawks to several seasons of misery and mediocrity under a succession of uninspired quarterbacks. Scroll down on this page to "A Good Walkthrough Spoiled. He was the Seahawks quarterback coach for many years, had an ill-fated stint as head coach in Washington, and was last seen coaching the Seattle Dragons of the XFL. [22], In 1989, Krieg struggled to lead an offense depleted by injuries. Krieg started his career as a seventh-string quarterback at a level of competition one step up from intramurals. Ryan Fitzpatrick with Buffalo in2011 kind of fits that mold, but Ryan Fitzpatrick has his own unique layers to his story. "Rodney Dangerfield Gets More Respect Than Seattle's Krieg" was the headline of the profile I just cited. He also died in 2018. Knox returned to coach the Rams for three awful years before retiring. Even when the young starter played poorly,[33] coach Jeff Fisher declined to insert Krieg. Rhome did not mince words when talking about his two quarterbacks in an AP story which ran on August 3, 1982. WebDavid Michael Krieg (/kre/ KRAYG; born October 20, 1958) is a former American football quarterback in the National Football League (NFL). I was in the Army in Germany during the late 80's - early 90s seasons. He signed with the Bears to back up Erik Kramer. "He was doing a great job moving the team up and down the field. "I said earlier in the week that we don't want to get this guy into the game and let him get into a rhythm," Jones said. he joked to Beckys-Place.com, a Seahawks fan site, in 2005. True to form, Krieg enjoyed a late-season hot streak: 14 touchdowns, just three interceptions, and a second-place finish in DVOA behind Steve Young. WebQuarterback controversies! The next week, Krieg's steady performance helped the Seahawks upset Dan Marino and the Miami Dolphins on the road. Then Krieg got benched in favor of Gilbert in the fourth quarter of the same game. Dave Krieg of the Seattle Seahawks, seen here in between fumbles. I liked him (probably because that's how Philadelphia area sportswriters often wrote). The Seahawks would not reach the playoffs again after Krieg's departure until Paul Allen bought the team and Mike Holmgren took over as head coach in 1999. Be sure to comply with laws applicable where you reside. Small hands. He was benched after throwing four interceptions against the Chiefs the following week; rookie backup Gale Gilbert came on and threw a fifth. If Dave Krieg hadn't interfered in 1992, DeBerg would have been replaced by Montana a second time, this time with the Chiefs,in 1993. See Photos. In Week 16, Krieg was benched and Stouffer got his first start of that season. David Krieg. I have actually walked on the campus of MILTON, not Ripon college, as well as Alma College in Michigan when my late father suggested that, just to be sure, should also look at small colleges not just the big land grant State schools. Legendary Hmm, it doesnt appear his hand size matters! Dave Krieg. Mind you, thats without an offensive line. I used to claim that he must have been before my time. WebThe official source for NFL news, video highlights, fantasy football, game-day coverage, schedules, stats, scores and more. QB fumbles - Fantasy Index Krieg In the team's eight victories, Krieg's passer rating averaged more than 114an excellent markbut in their eight losses, his rating hovered just above a dismal 40.[16]. How can people say the Hawks did not address their needs? In reply to the mitchell deal by Jetspete. [37][38], Krieg was released by the rechristened Tennessee Titans in July 1999 after the team signed Neil O'Donnell to backup McNair. JavaScript is disabled. Jeff Hostetler signed with the Raiders at the same time Mitchell signed with the Lions, and he kind of worked out okay (didn't light the world on fire stats-wise, but did make a Pro Bowl and won a lot of games as a starter). [18] That December, Krieg was named AFC Player of the Month. [43], He was inducted into the Seattle Seahawks Ring of Honor in 2004.[17]. He finished fifth in passing DVOA behind Dan Fouts, Marino, Joe Montana, and Joe Theismann. I think I remember reading once that Montana got his first start over Deberg because Deberg, otherwise healthy, had laryngitis and could not call plays. [11] Zorn reclaimed his former role, but played inconsistently.
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